The aggressor in my family is my 12 year old male Chihuahua, Taylor. The other 2 are females and both 8 years old. Taylor has disliked
one of the younger females (Emma) from day one. I've tried over the years to at least quell this behavior but after 8 years it's not going to change. Sometimes it is treat related but basically he doesn't like Emma. I do believe it is that simple. :(
THE BASICS

My home typically contains two or more dogs, and research has shown that having more than one dog is typical for nearly a third of dog-owning households in North America. In a multiple-dog home, one of the most disturbing situations is when there are aggressive incidents between the dogs. These are not only disturbing for the peace and happiness of the humans living there, but it can be quite dangerous for the dogs and for people who try to intervene and break up the fight. A scientific report published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association looked at this issue, specifically assessing the characteristics of the dogs involved and what can be done to help eliminate the problem of fighting among dogs living together.
Researchers Kathryn Wrubel, Alice Moon-Fanelli, Louise Maranda, and Nicholas Dodman recruited 38 pairs of dogs that came to the Animal Behavior Clinic at the Tufts University Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine in Grafton, Massachusetts, specifically because they were involved in aggressive incidents with their housemates. The research team then conducted in-depth interviews and administered questionnaires to determine the characteristics of dogs that had been involved in such situations. Later, they would prescribe a treatment method for the problem.
The first thing that might be surprising to most people is that female dogs are more often involved in such fights than are males. Only 32 percent of the aggressive incidents involved conflict between two males, while in the remaining 68 percent, females were active participants. This is consistent with previous research showing that when females get into an aggressive situation, injuries are apt to be more severe and the fights tend to be longer and more furious.
If we look at the overall characteristics of the dogs involved, we find that the instigator of the aggression is usually the dog that has been most recently brought into the household (70 percent). Further, in 74 percent of the cases, it is the younger dog that starts the fight. These fights are often a surprise to the owners, since 39 percent claim that the dogs usually get along with one another most of the time. The conflicts can be quite intense; 50 percent required veterinary care for the dogs and 10 percent of them required medical attention for owners who tried to intervene. The owners placed themselves in jeopardy because 54 percent of them felt that the fight would not stop unless they separated the dogs, and only 8 percent successfully separated the dogs using learned obedience commands.
What tends to trigger a fight among housemates? The actions of the owner, such as paying attention to one dog rather than the other, are a trigger for 46 percent of the pairs. Simple excitement, usually involving the owner's arrival or other activities, was involved in 31 percent. Conflict over food was involved in 46 percent of the pairs, while found items or toys are triggers in 26 percent.
There appear to be a number of risk factors that the study isolated for one or both of the dogs. Among pairs of dogs involved in aggressive incidents, 41 percent had at least one member who had lived in multiple households. When at least one of the dogs in the pair was 12 weeks of age or older when adopted, the rate of conflict was 39 percent; dogs adopted from a shelter were involved in 33 percent of the cases, and dogs from pet shops in 16 percent.
There is some evidence that dogs involved in aggressive situations with the dogs they live with do have a tendency to show aggression in other situations. For example, 40 percent have shown aggression to other dogs, 27 percent have shown aggression toward humans living in the household, and 27 percent toward human strangers. Most distressingly, 20 percent have shown aggression toward their owners.
Aggression may not be their only problem since 50 percent of the pairs of dogs involved in conflicts had at least one member with noticeable separation anxiety, and 30 percent had phobias, fearfulness, or other forms of anxiety.
The good news is that aggression between housemates does appear to be treatable using behavioral techniques that owners can institute. The first is the technique that Nicholas Dodman calls "nothing-in-life-is-free." This simply requires the dogs to respond to some simple learned command (such as "sit," "down," "come") before they get any resource that they want including their meal, a treat, petting, attention, etc. The second involves "supporting" one of the dogs, meaning that the chosen dog gets everything first (food, treats, attention etc.).
Here, the problem is which dog to select, and a pragmatic way of doing this is to choose the dog that is larger, stronger, healthier, more active, etc. An alternate method—which seems to fit with human notions of priority, deference, and respect—is to select the "senior" dog, in which the "senior" dog is the one that was in the household first, and has lived with the owner the longest.
Both methods work, but not instantaneously; on average the data shows that noticeable improvement does not occur until more than five weeks after the process starts. The "nothing-in-life-is-free" technique produced improvement in 89 percent of pairs, while the "senior support technique" produced improvement in 67 percent. The researchers suggest that these techniques work for two reasons: First, the dogs must act in a controlled manner, this takes some of the excitement and arousal out the situation. Second, events occur in a predictable order, the dogs learn that each of them will eventually get what they want and no conflict is needed.
It is important to note that the sex of the dogs not only makes a difference in the likelihood of conflict but also in the likelihood of improvement with behavioral treatment. As we noted at the beginning of this article, female dogs are more likely to engage in conflict with housemates, and their fights are apt to be more serious. This is consistent with the fact that the improvement with behavioral treatment is found to be less pronounced, although still significant, in female pairs. In male-male pairs, conflict was reduced in 72 percent of cases, while for male-female pairs, the reduction was 75 percent. In female-female pairs, the reduction success rate was only 57 percent, which, while not as large as in the other pairings, is still a reasonable improvement rate and well worth the effort.
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References
Data from: Kathryn M. Wrubel, Alice A. Moon-Fanelli, Louise S. Maranda, and Nicholas H. Dodman (2011). Interdog household aggression:38 cases (2006–2007). Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, 238, 731–740
Aggression in housemates
Are you trying to train your
Are you trying to train your dog? I suggest checking out online dog training from ►►► TeachMyDog . org - Since using it on my dog, my understanding of how dogs think has deepened and I know how to actually solve issues that most dog owners deal with. I plowed through all the videos in a couple of weeks and go back to them for review when needed. My new pup aced walking on a leash the first time in under 10 minutes thanks to the puppy training videos. We have two senior dogs, one geriatric and now a 16-week old puppy. The house is calmer, the issues we had with the senior dogs has been greatly reduced by implementing the 5 golden rules. I will keep this up and know that my new pup will be the talk of the town! I find that I myself and calmer and more grounded in my daily life. Thank you Doggy Dan! This has been a great help.
I have two female rescues
I have two female rescues that I believe to be about the same age (6 1/2 yrs). Ruby I have had since she was a puppy (she was approx. 10 weeks when I got her) and Darcy almost 5 years ago. They have been aggressive with each other (fairly violently) 3 times in 5 years. I have not been able to pinpoint a trigger for these events or who the aggressor is. Does anyone have any evidence showing that these events will lessen as the girls get older? These events scare me and I was injured during the first fight because I thought I could break it up. I do make them both sit before feeding and do try to spend specific time loving on Ruby (my more independent girl) often in front of Darcy since Darcy is my more "needy/jealous" girl. Anything else I can do?
solving problems
It's possible that loving on Ruby in front of Darcy can make it worse depending on their issues. Darcy can wait til you are not around to let Ruby know that her access to you is not acceptable. But it's complicated to judge anything about relationships by eMail, of course. I'd video their interactions and show it to a trainer. There are a lot of barely noticeable freezes that a trainer can show you so they you'll be able to interrupt aggression before an attack. There are all kinds of management items you might use; baby gates, muzzles, scent work, to help them get along.
fights
I brought home a 12-13 year old male mini doxie about a 1.5 years ago. He gets along fine with my other male, a 12 year old pug. I got a 9 month old female pug about 8 or 9 months ago and the doxie does NOT like her. She is dominant but doesn't start fights. She does, however know how to push the doxies buttons and does so whenever she gets the chance, which causes him to start the fight. Luckily it looks and sounds horrible but neither has gotten hurt (they do it every day). The female is also a food hog so, from the beginning, I have made her sit and wait for the treat and she gets hers last. The fighting hasn't gotten any better or worse, it just is what it is. I'm hoping when the young one gets older and calms down it will help.
dogs fighting
ok well ive read your solutions for 2 dogs in same house fighting and most of what you said apply as the youngest dog(just turned 2) and only been here for around 6months and our other dog 7yrs old and very laid back and now very confused as to what the heck is wrong with this little poodle and why is he so damned mean. we have tryed lots of different ways to calm the poodle down but he just gets upset wwith ANYTHING you get out of your chair he goes nuts barking you open the door he goes nuts my other dog trys to go out the door and the poodle is barking his head off and trying to bite my other dog but as soon as they get outside he stops and when this poodle starts to bark he will not stop we tryed a bark collar and i think he is just to stupid to figure out that when he barks he gets shocked we are just about at wits end trying to figure out what to do about this any suggestions
dogs fighting
Hi Alan,
It sounds like your poodle would benefit from learning how to be calm. Is he crate trained? We crate train dogs, and make the crate "Disneyland for dogs," with treats and good associations as you slowly train them. Also, does your poodle get enough exercise? There are some great dog trainer out there if you find the right ones. Rewarding the calm behavior and setting up a specific, predictable structured schedule may help with an anxious dog. Good luck.
Mega packs.....
I have an incurable condition known as "canis lupus familiaris acquiritis syndrome". I TRY to limit myself to just ten dogs at any one time, but for decades I have often had to grit my teeth and disregard that limit, because, as a SUCKER, I have gotten involved with some wretched(but wonderful) canine in dire straits, that if I don't take in, was DOOMED. Therefore I have gobs and oodles of experiences keeping BIG PACKS of canines, including some with recent wolf genetics. I always TRY to let them work things out themselves, and only intervene if an attack is getting especially deadly(like the whole pack "piling on" one individual)--it can be hard to just sit back and let them get THEIR pecking order established, but if you intervene, the dogs fighting often make the erroneous assumption that the human pack member is trying to back them up, and they fight all the harder! But there ARE dogs that JUST WILL NOT EVER get along, and you just have to keep them separate--or find another home, if you can. And boy howdy, do I concur that the bitches are twice as bad as the dogs once they get into it! Males often fight, work things out, and are satisfied with their ensuing place in the hierarchy, and even become great pals. Females? My experience has been they NEVER relinquish resentment, and just wait for ANY CHANCE to nail a rival! This has been noted in WOLF behavior studies, too, as I was told by some WOLF PARK friends at their captive facility in Indiana. Something I found suprising was when I had a pack of five wolf-hybrids along with numerous other dogs, the wolf dogs maintained a very strict, but benevolent hierarchy, and I had very few serious incidents of aggression. Whereas with a pack of all thoroughly domesticated dogs, strife occurs far more often. Leading me to theorize perhaps in our selection of characteristics in dogs, we bred them to work more closely with we humans as opposed to other canines, to the point where they don't socialize quite as well with their own kind as they do us now!......L.B.
dog le
Anonymous wrote:I have an incurable condition known as "canis lupus familiaris acquiritis syndrome". I TRY to limit myself to just ten dogs at any one time, but for decades I have often had to grit my teeth and disregard that limit, because, as a SUCKER, I have gotten involved with some wretched(but wonderful) canine in dire straits, that if I don't take in, was DOOMED. Therefore I have gobs and oodles of experiences keeping BIG PACKS of canines, including some with recent wolf genetics. I always TRY to let them work things out themselves, and only intervene if an attack is getting especially deadly(like the whole pack "piling on" one individual)--it can be hard to just sit back and let them get THEIR pecking order established, but if you intervene, the dogs fighting often make the erroneous assumption that the human pack member is trying to back them up, and they fight all the harder! But there ARE dogs that JUST WILL NOT EVER get along, and you just have to keep them separate--or find another home, if you can. And boy howdy, do I concur that the bitches are twice as bad as the dogs once they get into it! Males often fight, work things out, and are satisfied with their ensuing place in the hierarchy, and even become great pals. Females? My experience has been they NEVER relinquish resentment, and just wait for ANY CHANCE to nail a rival! This has been noted in WOLF behavior studies, too, as I was told by some WOLF PARK friends at their captive facility in Indiana. Something I found suprising was when I had a pack of five wolf-hybrids along with numerous other dogs, the wolf dogs maintained a very strict, but benevolent hierarchy, and I had very few serious incidents of aggression. Whereas with a pack of all thoroughly domesticated dogs, strife occurs far more often. Leading me to theorize perhaps in our selection of characteristics in dogs, we bred them to work more closely with we humans as opposed to other canines, to the point where they don't socialize quite as well with their own kind as they do us now!......L.B.
agressive false pregnancy
I had always had two welsh springer spaniëls bitches. Between the last couple I had problems: one is 8, the other 1 year old. They got along fine but they weren't very close. Sometimes there was some barking at each other. Then the youngest came into heat. Two months later she had a false pregnancy, she had milk and searched for puppies under pillows and beds. Every evening she started a fight with the older one. Every day it became more serious. During the sixt fight the young one nearly killed the old one. She didn't let go her troat and shook her. The old one cried for help, but I couldn't separate them. The doorbell made her stop for a moment and I could separate them. The old one needed stitches. We gave the young one hormones to stop the false pregnancy and rehomed her for two weeks.We went for walks with the two, everything went fine. but when they were inside,the very agressive fights started again. With a lot of sadness I rehomed the youngest one. She lives in a household with two males and everything goes fine. I'm so disappointed I don't ever dare to have two dogs again.I never want to experience this again in my life.
false pregnancy
I'm very sorry for the trauma your older one experienced. But I can't help but wonder if things would have been ok if they were spayed.
spaying and aggression
I can tell you that it wouldn't make any difference- my younger 3 yrs old poodle just doesn't like my 12 yr gentle, sweet old girl, and will go after her if she feels that her territory & resources are invaded.
Both are spayed.We don't allow the behavior- we are very firm, and let her know WE are top dogs.
Dog-Dog Aggression Among Housemates
May I respectfully suggest Jean Donaldson's book, "Fight" as a reference if you have dogs that are fighting. You may need help from a trainer, too, and these are Jean and my suggestions on how to find one:
http://pawsforpraise.wordpress.com/2013/07/21/finding-the-right-dog-trainer-harder-than-you-think/
dog fights in the home article by Coren
He's a human psychologist, so how does that make him qualified to write about dog fights ? I read his first big book (in sales) and it was basically trash and supposition. 'why, why, why....' and no one ask " what the hell am I going to do about it ? " It ttakes a professional to resolve it and it's not about 'obedience class'. It's about behavior modification. Jeff Gellman in Rhode Island is a true rehabilitator of the hardest cases that trainers refuse to take on. Ask him.
Jean Donaldson
Actually, Jean Donaldson is a woman, and she directs the San Francisco SPCA’s Academy for Dog Trainers, regarded as the Harvard for dog trainers.
guy speaks simple truth/facts
all the author has done is give stats on inhouse fighting which did reassure me that what just happened, which was on a high level ,IS not the end of the world,does happen and just like he states according to the study--the younger one,the female one IS the instigator and aggressor. YES they are dawgs and better stop the bs. I have owned large,allegedly aggressive bully breeds , unneutered males and THIS spayed female IS worse than all my prior deceased boys combined for starting quarrels which today INTENSIFIED to real fighting-and of course NEVER get in their way IF THEY refuse to recognise your verbal authority as you will get injured.(came HERE via goooogle search to find out whatthehell just happened)
Missing ingredient
Could a reason that the two solutions cited work to reduce dog on dog aggression be that the human is giving them interaction? The examples cited seem to be about resources and therefore could possibly be described as the 'feeling of not enough' - and when the human gives interaction they get connection. After all, dogs are emotional beings like us :-)
"the kernel of all jealousy is lack of love" Carl Jung, Memories Dreams and Reflections
Missed something
I took a quick look at the abstract. It clearly lists psychotropic medication as a treatment option. Why was that omitted from the article?
Did the researchers compare results to a placebo group? Were all dogs medicated? Why is there no mention of desensitization and counterconditioning? There are only 38 pairs of dogs. Did the dogs get one treatment each? Or did dogs all receive multiple treatments where we might not fully know which treatment offered a clear benefit?
Which isn't a comment on the study. Rather that there seems to be far more to this story. I'm wondering why the medication angle was omitted. I'm wondering which treatments were compared and how. It matters.
Confirms experience
All looks consistent with what I've seen for years. Interesting that all of your noted triggers are also primary targets for conditioning during canine rehabilitation, for the same reasons. While I do little obedience training, dogs must learn to coexist and how to resolve conflicts. Also interesting is Dodman's suggested technique, which suggests how very little conditioning had been previously supplied by the owners. Alternately, rehab protocols are more in line with Overall's approach.
Recent aggression between dogs
I adopted both of my dogs when they were (about) three from different rescues. The first in Nov 2011, the second in Jan 2013. They are now about 6 and 4.5. Since adopting dog #2, they have gotten along beautifully. They play together, sleep together, and have never guarded resources from each other. Both can be pushy and demand attention from humans, but never taking it out on another dog. Occasionally one would tell the other off when play got too intense, but neither has ever taken it beyond a "Hey! Lay off!" and they'd both shake it off and go back to playing nicely, like the well-socialized dogs they are.
They have never shown any aggression towards each other until a couple months ago. My partner and I (the most recent full-time addition to the household) were away from home overnight while the dogs were being watched by our neighbors. When we returned, they fought three times in the first 24 hours, once even while separated by a kennel wall. They continued to scuffle a few times over the next week or two, and have done so occasionally since. The disputes are brief and loud, and the younger dog (more recently adopted) appears to be the aggressor, though it's only happened in front of me a couple times. It doesn't seem to be resource-driven. The last time I saw what happened, my older dog was facing away licking a hot spot on her paw when the younger dog's hackles rose, and she stalked across the room to start a fight. The older dog doesn't fight back; she only tries to extract herself from the situation. So far they respond to a verbal distraction, and even if I don't intervene, the scuffles end quickly, they both shake off, and they're fine again, curling up together in their bed. Since neither resource guards, and their only competition seems to be over attention from me, but the fights are happening when I'm not paying them any attention, or not even in the same room, I have no idea what the trigger might be. I don't know for sure, but it so far hasn't happened while I'm gone and my partner is home with them, and I suspect it's not happening at all when I'm not there.
I'm just worried the conflicts will escalate and happen when I'm not there to diffuse the situation. They (by choice) share a large kennel when we're away, and I worry that if a fight broke out in the kennel, without a place to escape, one of them might get hurt, especially if my older dog (twice the size of the younger) felt cornered and had to fight back. If the scuffles get more consistent I can go back to using separate kennels for each, but 99.9% of the time they are best buds and love each other's company. My whole reason for adopting a second dog was for companionship for the first when home alone. I know this is an old article, but I'm hoping someone may be able to suggest something that could help them.
Laura's dogs
Laura, as you don't see the cause, the best start is to bring in another set of eyes. A good dog trainer or behaviorist who can watch them interact in a few scenarios and give you some further tests to try, or advice on what to do. Other than by a lucky guess, no blog answer will see what you can't see there. Check with friends, or local shelters and rescues for people they recommend.
Thanks
Exactly the answer I knew I would get, and exactly the answer I've given to others in similar situations. I do have a couple resources I can try; a behaviorist who worked with the rescue I adopted dog #2 from, and the trainer from their CGC prep course. I guess I was just hoping that someone who has been through it could give me a couple tips or things to look for that I haven't considered yet.
Thank you for the reply!
Laura's Dogs
Great advice Gerry. We had a foster dog that we thought was instigating conflict with our existing pack. Our trainer came in to observe and it took her just a few, short minutes to see it wasn't the foster but it was one of our personal dogs that was causing the problems, we just couldn't see it. Someone new can bring a fresh perspective.
Health?
Hi Laura,
I'm sure you asked the neighbors if anything strange happened, and you're probably rightfully wary of having him or her watch your dogs again. Have you had a full blood panel done on both dogs? Extreme changes in behavior sometimes can be health-related. That's the first thing I'd check. Then, a good trainer. Good luck!
2 male dogs non stop aggression is taking its toll.
I have the same issue as others only out of 5 dogs, it is 2 males that hate each other. They are both neutered, 1 Chihuahua and 1 dauchsen. The chihuahua always growls and provokes the fighting, but the dauchsen is clearly bigger and more able to win the fight. Last night they were under my bed fighting for 15 minutes before I was able to break them up, getting bite I might add in the process. I put the dauchsen in the bathroom and shut the door for about an hour hoping things would calm down. The minute I let the dauchsen out, they went right back to fighting. Oscar had Pepe pinned against the wall, and trying to break them up again, once more I was bitten on my other hand. I put the Chihuahua in the bathroom this time. My husband ended up sleeping in the living room with Pepe (Chihuahua) and I slept in the bedroom with Oscar. My decision to not keep them in cages is literally biting me with the consequences, and this is not the first time.
2 male dogs non stop aggression is taking its toll
Evelyn: I so feel your anxiety. We had two males who did the same we lived with baby gates and anxiety for 6 years with this situation. Heed the advise of this article or re-home one of the males.
breaking up dog fights
The best way to break up a dog fight without getting bitten, when the dogs are not responding to commands, is to grab a hind leg and pull the instigator away from the fight. I was bitten a few months ago and since then have employed the leg trick and it works. This is a great article.
Aggression Between Dogs in the Same Household
I so wish I had this information so many years ago when I had two males who would have blood fights.
Both of my males were neutered. One of my males did show separation anxiety issues, fearfulness and aggression towards humans. He was a rescue that had two owners by age 18 months before I had adopted him. I had owned him for 13 years before I found out he had a bee bee in his head. That must have happened to him in the first year of his life. I was at my wits end but was not going to give up on either of them. Had I had this information I would have done things differently. But in the end the most aggressive one was my teacher and helped me to train dogs positively and I do no regret he was the one to show me a better way.
Use with Caution!
I saw this article and the underlying research today being referenced in a discussion about whether or not one should consider having two female dogs in a home. I realize that the author is only reporting on the study. I also have a great deal of admiration for Stanley Coren. However, I am compelled to comment because I feel that this article should include some reference to the fact that this is only one study and that there are other factors to consider, especially when bringing a new dog into a home that already has one or more dogs.
This type of research is always valuable as good information to know and keep in the back of your mind. I have seen many dog fights - the majority of them ironically between males (possibly coincidentally) and in particular between unfixed males. I don't question the research at all. That said, I still think that there are always exceptions to the rule and circumstances to consider. I also think that a small sample of only 38 pairs of dogs, and especially of only dogs who are already exhibiting behavioral issues, is not representative of the average household with dogs.
I have two females (both Labs) who both can be "real bitches." Both are rescues. One of them was extremely fear-aggressive when I adopted her at the age of six years. She is 12 today. We went through years of training, and while she has greatly improved around other dogs, she will always have issues when a new dog gets too close to her face. My younger girl (adopted two years ago at the age of one or two), can be extremely jealous. But ironically, they have never, ever fought with each other - not even the very first time they met or when I first introduced the younger one into the household. Never.
My point is that if you are considering bringing another dog into the home, it is always good to consider research - but more importantly, you should get to know YOUR dog before bringing another dog into the home. Watch YOUR dog carefully when he/she interacts with other dogs, and understand if your dog has more (or fewer) issues with other males/females, with younger/older dogs, with fixed/unfixed dogs, with certain breads, inside/outside of your home, during certain activities, etc. That way, you are more likely to figure out what to look for in the "perfect" match - more so than by considering research that will only tell you what is generally more likely to be true. And be prepared to walk away during the first meeting when you have any concerns that the two dogs may not be the best possible match for each other. My two cents....
Use with Caution
Yes! I totally agree with all that you have said. That being said my situation was 20 years ago when I was a novice dog owner and did not understand that much about dogs. I know so much more today and I waited a long time to find the right fit for the current dog we have. I read and related to this article from who I was 20 years ago when I had two warring dogs and was not as informed as I am today. I am on the board of a local animal shelter and from my experience the majority of the public who adopt dogs are as novice as I was. This article at least gives them some good practices when you are stuck with what you unwittingly acquired and are committed to make it work.
Size
I have had mulitple dogs for about 20 years, always females. My first pair, Tia and Lucky, did not get along. Lucky was a fairly confident senior dog, and when Tia was a puppy, they got along fine. However, once Tia got bigger than Lucky, that changed. She was very dominate, and liked to show Lucky that. Good for us, Lucky submitted. After Lucky, we got Hope. She and Tia never fought, 1) Tia was bigger, 2) Tia was older, 3) Hope is submissive. After Tia, I got Bella and Faith. Bella, the smallest dog (at 35 lbs) gets along great, but sometimes, Faith can be aggressive, usually just growling. Faith and Hope are about the same size, and Bella and Faith are about the same age (give or take a coupe of months). I think that size plays a big factor as well as personality. My Tia didn't submit to ANY dog, male or female (my friend and a male old english sheepdog and when Tia was at his house, she still refused to submit, even though he was bigger and a male). All our current dogs get along, but I find size is a big factor. They were all adopted from the same shelter, so that is not a factor. Also, they are all in a house with cats, birds and toddlers, and never react to them. Sometimes, personalities just don't mesh.
Female dog?
There is not such a thing as a "female dog"! I called a bitch, stop the stupid political correctness and call things by their name!
welcome article
I have a female pit mix who has anxiety. We had a family of 4 dogs during the 2 times she attacked our much bigger male greyhound. The first time I assumed it was because he may have bumped into her in our much smaller yard during one of his romps. It was a nasty attack but not too serious. We bought land and built new home. Stupidly I assumed that there would be no further problems. That was last summer. Then the unthinkable happen and she attacked him again and the other 2 dogs joined in. It was horrible and I searched frantically for a stick or something to break up the fight. By the time I found something they had all released the poor dog and were all licking him. He was frozen in fear and I learned a very costly lesson. He did heal after a month to 6 weeks of drains and 2 weeks at the vet for bandage changes several times per day. I wish I had read this article years ago. I learned that the actions of the greyhound when running set off my pit. She was a rescue and we knew she was female dog aggressive but until the first attack I never thought she would ever attack her buddy. She has never been aggressive with a human. We have always made all of our dogs wait for meals and treats. They all will respond to commands. Our problem is based in the way a greyhound is different from other breeds. Not his fault but my fault from not handling his outside time separately from her. All is once again peaceful but I will never trust her outside with him if am there. For some reason I seem to be the catalyst of the situation. This s something I would love to have explored more.
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Great Article
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advice on who to pick
I have all the red flags two girls, one a rescue pup we found at 5 weeks old the other is a 10 yr old Wheaton terrier we got only a year before. The terrier has all kinds of anxiety issues the most prominent being seperation anxiety she also has huge problems with other dogs. At first the puppy helped so much the terrier went into maternal mode and her anxiety noticeably improved, it was for this reason we decided we had to keep instead of just foster the puppy.
Recently tho for the first time they had a really terrifying fight I came out with some nasty scratches and they both drew blood on eachother. Im already using normal behavioral training but I would like to try "favoring one". But im not sure if I should choose the anxious senior or the rambunctious puppy. Please advise
Who to pick
Always side with the more dominant animal. If you don't that dog will try to prove that you are wrong by continuing the aggression.
don't 'pick a favorite'
Stanley coren wrote some books, but he is not a rehabilitator of troubled dogs. Ask your question of a professional rehabber who has helped humdreds of dogs. Start with Jeff Gellman, Sean O'Shea or Tyler Muto. I followed them the past 3 years and the nub of it is that dogs must follow the people. And people do not allow dogs to fight. Dogs do not get to 'settle it' because they are dogs and are not equipped to negotiate. Find a professional rehabber (not a behaviorist or regular trainer) and the people I mentioned may know a person in your area.
Normal pack ordering vs pack disruption
I have a rescue. My current pack is 18 dogs, primarily Chows and Siberians. 8 are personally owned, 3 are permafoster seniors for other rescue groups, and 2 others belong to my rescue group, and 5 being worked for adoptions.
Breed does matter to some degree. For example: gender pairing is a much bigger issue for Akitas. Often two females, even if spayed, are not recommended to share the same household.
Dominance traits matter.
Some dogs are destined to lead and some are destined to follow. The problems come between those dogs when that order is challenged.
There are pack leaders. I have a dominant old senior female Chow that NO ONE CROSSES she is not the pack leader here, but she is a force of nature in her own right. Watching her go outside its like watching the Red Sea part! They make a hole for her path. She has no squabble with the younger pack leaders, both Sibes.
They let her do her thing, but I promise you, if she DID cross our pack leader female, Bella Luna, the stronger younger pack leader is going to put this senior in her place quickly.
Dogs can be very self regulating. They do have complex communication through urine marking. I suspect that our pack leaders are more tolerant and deferent to the very young and very old. All are sterilized.
Challenging the pack leadership is a serious thing. I have had three pack leaders, male, and they have gone through changes as they age within the pack. Their relationships change with each other. The first two basically have the respect of the pack but are not actively running it. They have retired so to speak. They are transitioning to being quiet watchers. And interestingly, their attachment to us has become more affectionate and deeper. But they still come to life in cases of pack disruption and it's like grandpa unpacking some whoop ass to school a younger kid. It's over quick if those two get up and get involved. Even the current pack leader steps aside and watches.
The final thing is this: ultimately when there is a pack problem the FIRST place to look is at the human pack leader. I work with two stubborn difficult to train headstrong breeds. It is an absolute requirement that I don't get lazy and let any challenge to ME go unanswered and given a clear message " Yes I AM STILL IN CHARGE, the people run you, and you, dog, are NOT. Humans run this!"
That respect thing is what makes my pack work. It is why I can go into shelters and work with fearful dogs who do not know me.
I work with dogs other rescues won't touch and other handlers fear...and this pack helps heal them with inclusion, boundaries, discipline. They do more for rescues, that stay here for a couple of weeks before moving on to transport to their receiving rescue, than I do. They close ranks as a pack on a poorly mannered, unsocialized dog and teach them.
This study has very limited application because canine behavior is much more complex. We have clues, but I am convinced dogs know much more about each other than we do about dogs. I would take this all with a grain of salt.
3 Pitbull 1 Mom, 1 Dad, and 1 Baby Girl
I have the 2 as mom and dad, and mom got a baby, and i keep 1., so now that the baby is 3 years old now, mom and dad is 5 years old, the mom was so aggressive with the baby, and the baby always fights back, sometimes, the baby look at me as if it was my fault why the mom fighting her., so now both mom and dad are together, and the baby is living inside my car., i have to make sure that they will not be together in one place. please help, please advice.
aggression in the household
The way I got my pit bull was from another household where the 2 females and male fought. All 3 of them. I got her from a vet also. The other 2 dogs have been euthanized because she had no luck with trainers or any other means of keeping the dogs from being dog aggressive with each other or other dogs. All 3 dogs had questionable backgrounds so not sure if it was bad breeding or perhaps training. All I know is that my Pit, now 9 years old will still be aggressive. I have docile dobes that are twice her size and she lords over them. This will escalate if they stay together. The last fight between my pits housemates was almost deadly for the female so the vet had no real choice, being she lived in a subdivision and had a horrible time keeping them in their fence. Separate the puppy for the puppies own sake. Just not fair to the puppy. A single dog home would be the best also. I wish you much luck. I have been there with my pit also. She has attacked my greyhound twice and the last time was a 2 week stay in the hospital for him. She is now almost cripple from a botched knee surgery that caused specialist to remove all hardware. That has calmed her down tremendously. I'll do another pit rescue when she passes but will test it more with my dogs before putting them in peril.
aggression in the household
all you have to do is research dog breeds to see that the pit bull type dog has been bred to fight and kill for hundreds of years. You have also witnessed it first hand , yet you say you will get another pit bull , fighting dog. Why? Just the other day a 36 year old woman was killed by the pit bull mix she just rescued.
3 pit
First of all, why would you breed more pit bulls when the shelters are filled with 70% to 80% pit bulls and pit mixes? Did you do your research on this breed? They have been bred to fight and kill, and that is why they are predominantly used in dog fights, then people are surprised why their pits are trying to kill each other. There have also been a lot of owners mauled or killed by their own pit bulls. Check a FB page called Dangerous Dogs.
Mary Rae is ignorant
Mary Rae you are ignorant. What does it mean to "breed" a dog to be dangerous? Do you know that most dogs labeled as "Pit Bulls" are mixed dogs? So, how does your bias work with that? So all dogs that look alike (and by the way, breed identifiers make up less than 1% of a dog's DNA) are the same? What a forward thinker you are. The problem is almost always in how the dogs, of ANY breed, are being managed.
Proof Read
Good article. However, the simple mistake in the writing should have been caught.
"The first thing that might be surprising to most people is that female dogs are more often involved in such fights then are males."
More often in such fights THAN are males....
Household aggression
I have 1 female lab and 2 male jack Russell's. One is 5 has been in the house since he was 2. The youngest Russell is 2 we adopted him from another family when he was 8 months. He was picked on in the beginning by our female lab nothing too serious. About 6 months ago our youngest Russell (2) started getting aggressive mainly with the other Russell (5). Usually he just growls but at times the older Russell (5) doesn't back down so it turns into a huge fight my partner and I always separate them which isn't easy. Once I was bitten trying to pull one of them away. I've heard a tired dog is a good dog in my experience it's not always true. Lately the aggression has gotten worse so I've been walking the 3 of them more often together. The aggression seems worse when my partner are home together which is jealousy I guess but it's been over food as well. I walk on eggshells around the youngest Russell which probably makes it worse telling him he's the dominant one of the house. I need help....
Hire a Trainer!
You need to hire a professional trainer specializing in aggression immediately before someone gets hurt!
Fairly Spot-On Information
Having been in Dog Training & Rehabilitation (focusing on the worst of the worst: former fighting dogs, former bait dogs, over-bred females turned vicious, long term tethered/ long term institutionalized, burned/beaten/emaciated, etc) for almost 26 years now... I find most of this article spot on accurate.
The exception(s):
- gender
- the lack of MORE emphasis on "resources" (toys, treats, food) and
- what we call "maintaining a level playing field" (ie not giving more attention to one than another.)
In our experience...Gender eb's and flo's from one home of multiple dogs to the next. Neither males or females account for more incidents than the other.
"Resources"... Conflict due to resources is generally the second most common complaint in the multiple dog home.
(Agreed, Information is only as accurate as the training client provides)
Our most common complaint, once we grill the client several times with the same questioning/ getting slightly different answers each time, is there is conflict due to favoritism and an "Un-level playing field".
In our training course, maintaining order in the multiple dog home runs through all aspects of equality: random order in feeding/treats/toys, equal affection/ equal discipline, and good old fashion "no one plays second fiddle or rides in the back of the bus."
The most common error in follow through on the dog owners part is making the mistake that the dog in the home the longest comes first. Dogs do not decipher between one kind of favoritism from another. They do acknowledge they are being treated as "less than" or "second" and they will engage to right-the-wrong.
As we all know, Canines are a pack animal. Like us humans, they observe a social order, each member tends to specialize, and with balance... there is civility.
We humans complicate this institution by making a dog or dogs live in the human culture according to human standards.
If we are to find success in maintaining a civil multiple dog home, there has to be genuine and fair leadership, each dog is held to minimum standard of behavior, the group is treated as a group, and we follow some basic rules that puts no one member of the group in the position to feel they need to fight for more.
Team Pit-a-Full Dog Training & Rehabilitation
Denver, CO
Interesting Article, Useless Statistics
I agree with much of the advice given here, but the author only provides a portion of the statistics used to back up his conclusions. For instance, 32% of aggression involved males only, 68% involved females as either male/female or female pairs, but no statistic is given for female only aggression, leading one to wonder if 32% were also female to female interactions; in that case the results would be statistically gender nonspecific. He also shares statistics such as the overall percentage of aggression from shelter dogs (33%) and pet shops (16%), without telling us the percentage of studied dogs which were from shelters or pet shops. Additionally, shelter dogs are more likely to be older and pets shops typically sell puppies, so as much as I want to support caring, conscious breeders, those numbers may or may not mean anything. Without the complete information, the cherry picked statistics shared here are useless. A person with a PhD, (I can only assume in Psychology), should know better.
Interesting Article, Useless Statistics
I agree with much of the advice given here, but the author only provides a portion of the statistics used to back up his conclusions. For instance, 32% of aggression involved males only, 68% involved females as either male/female or female pairs, but no statistic is given for female only aggression, leading one to wonder if 32% were also female to female interactions; in that case the results would be statistically gender nonspecific. He also shares statistics such as the overall percentage of aggression from shelter dogs (33%) and pet shops (16%), without telling us the percentage of studied dogs which were from shelters or pet shops. Additionally, shelter dogs are more likely to be older and pets shops typically sell puppies, so as much as I want to support caring, conscious breeders, those numbers may or may not mean anything. Without the complete information, the cherry picked statistics shared here are useless. A person with a PhD, (I can only assume in Psychology), should know better.
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